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	<description>Seducing you with feminism, politics and activism. The truth never sounded so good.</description>
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		<title>By: It&#8217;s confirmed: This might be a political blog &#171; The Sin City Siren</title>
		<link>http://sincitysiren.wordpress.com/2007/09/27/rights-are-rights-no-matter-the-label/#comment-1831</link>
		<dc:creator>It&#8217;s confirmed: This might be a political blog &#171; The Sin City Siren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 01:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of all colors, all religions, for workers rights. For everyone, period. And that includes the animals, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Vegan stripclub: good or bad? &#171; Vegetarian News and Views</title>
		<link>http://sincitysiren.wordpress.com/2007/09/27/rights-are-rights-no-matter-the-label/#comment-1792</link>
		<dc:creator>Vegan stripclub: good or bad? &#171; Vegetarian News and Views</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wrote a piece on feminist vegetarianism for The Sin City Siren a while back, illustrating my thoughts on the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Web Flow Chart of the Beef Industry &#171; The Sin City Siren</title>
		<link>http://sincitysiren.wordpress.com/2007/09/27/rights-are-rights-no-matter-the-label/#comment-1743</link>
		<dc:creator>Web Flow Chart of the Beef Industry &#171; The Sin City Siren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] But I won&#8217;t bore you with talk of animal rights. For that, visit my previous post. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
		<link>http://sincitysiren.wordpress.com/2007/09/27/rights-are-rights-no-matter-the-label/#comment-797</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 04:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will never quit eating steak. Or chicken.

I will never quit drinking milk.

Kill the animals as fast and painlessly as possible.

That&#039;s all i have to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will never quit eating steak. Or chicken.</p>
<p>I will never quit drinking milk.</p>
<p>Kill the animals as fast and painlessly as possible.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s all i have to say.</p>
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		<title>By: vintagefan</title>
		<link>http://sincitysiren.wordpress.com/2007/09/27/rights-are-rights-no-matter-the-label/#comment-724</link>
		<dc:creator>vintagefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 00:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The same concept has been used by PETA again, except it&#039;s a new image with a real model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The same concept has been used by PETA again, except it&#8217;s a new image with a real model.</p>
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		<title>By: j3n</title>
		<link>http://sincitysiren.wordpress.com/2007/09/27/rights-are-rights-no-matter-the-label/#comment-723</link>
		<dc:creator>j3n</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 23:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I can&#039;t remember if the poster was included with Adams&#039;s book because it&#039;s THEME is sexism or if it IS sexism.

If it is the former it is art. 

If it is the latter, it requires exposure as such from focus – say, in a book about sexism and sexism&#039;s relation to vegetarianism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I can&#8217;t remember if the poster was included with Adams&#8217;s book because it&#8217;s THEME is sexism or if it IS sexism.</p>
<p>If it is the former it is art. </p>
<p>If it is the latter, it requires exposure as such from focus – say, in a book about sexism and sexism&#8217;s relation to vegetarianism.</p>
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		<title>By: vintagefan</title>
		<link>http://sincitysiren.wordpress.com/2007/09/27/rights-are-rights-no-matter-the-label/#comment-722</link>
		<dc:creator>vintagefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 19:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The poster is sexist; that is the point&quot;

And a poster like that uses women the same as any sexist advertiser uses women to sell a product or service. Depicting a woman in an exaggerated circumstance of brutality or likening her to ‘lamb chops’ or even a subtle hint at misogyny doesn’t get through to people because women ARE ALREADY represented that way in glamour mags and the like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The poster is sexist; that is the point&#8221;</p>
<p>And a poster like that uses women the same as any sexist advertiser uses women to sell a product or service. Depicting a woman in an exaggerated circumstance of brutality or likening her to ‘lamb chops’ or even a subtle hint at misogyny doesn’t get through to people because women ARE ALREADY represented that way in glamour mags and the like.</p>
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		<title>By: j3n</title>
		<link>http://sincitysiren.wordpress.com/2007/09/27/rights-are-rights-no-matter-the-label/#comment-700</link>
		<dc:creator>j3n</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 02:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Serial killers often have a common trait shown long before they become serial killers: they tortured animals as children and young adults.

2. Cattle are herbivores.

3. The poster is sexist; that is the point; it shows the similarity between how western paternalistic culture refers to women and animals in similar terms: chick, pig, ass, bitch, kitty, pussy, dog, doggy style, back, leg man, breast man, ass man, wild, my little lamb chop...

4. By our high demand for meat and the low profitability of vegetarian products the third world spends resources on an industry that is inherently destructive to ecosystems: e.g. burning down trees to graze cattle leads to permanent erosion and the destruction of the rain forest.

5. Frankenstein&#039;s monster was a vegetarian.

6. The most powerful argument for generalization I learned from the book is the concept of fragmentation: by putting only one woman writer in each school book, written by men, we would think only one female writer of history existed; fragmentation has great power, in everyday conversation the skill can be used to chop and dice and butcher the arguments of arrogant short penis-ed men.

7. I am a man and I eat meat.

8. &quot;Doesn&#039;t make sense to me at all.&quot;  Were you posing  a question?

9. Why comment on a blog about human rights if your just going to crack jokes: because you are the point of the post.  Seems the tracer was headed in the wrong direction...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Serial killers often have a common trait shown long before they become serial killers: they tortured animals as children and young adults.</p>
<p>2. Cattle are herbivores.</p>
<p>3. The poster is sexist; that is the point; it shows the similarity between how western paternalistic culture refers to women and animals in similar terms: chick, pig, ass, bitch, kitty, pussy, dog, doggy style, back, leg man, breast man, ass man, wild, my little lamb chop&#8230;</p>
<p>4. By our high demand for meat and the low profitability of vegetarian products the third world spends resources on an industry that is inherently destructive to ecosystems: e.g. burning down trees to graze cattle leads to permanent erosion and the destruction of the rain forest.</p>
<p>5. Frankenstein&#8217;s monster was a vegetarian.</p>
<p>6. The most powerful argument for generalization I learned from the book is the concept of fragmentation: by putting only one woman writer in each school book, written by men, we would think only one female writer of history existed; fragmentation has great power, in everyday conversation the skill can be used to chop and dice and butcher the arguments of arrogant short penis-ed men.</p>
<p>7. I am a man and I eat meat.</p>
<p>8. &#8220;Doesn&#8217;t make sense to me at all.&#8221;  Were you posing  a question?</p>
<p>9. Why comment on a blog about human rights if your just going to crack jokes: because you are the point of the post.  Seems the tracer was headed in the wrong direction&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: vintagefan</title>
		<link>http://sincitysiren.wordpress.com/2007/09/27/rights-are-rights-no-matter-the-label/#comment-693</link>
		<dc:creator>vintagefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 02:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with TB&#039;s first point, but am also aware that &quot;By eliminating animal agriculture&quot; can benefit the environment. However  “serial killing, domestic violence, child abuse - is often accompanied by or starts with animal abuse.” ---what does that mean? That the misogynist begins at the bottom of the food chain and works his way to the top? First Animals, then Women, then Men? Misogyny is a social mindset and it can’t be equated to animal rights. Animal rights are important, and one can choose to be a person who cares about animal rights who happens to be feminist as well. I’d go as far as to make parallels between the sex-slave industry and the mass slaughter of animals for meat production, but to equate the two and say that the female situation will improve if the animal one does-- sounds a bit simplistic. That poster by itself is intensely sexist. The intention might be to bring women and animals to the level of a human being, but it only seems to succeed in bringing women to the level of animals. Doesn&#039;t make sense to me at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with TB&#8217;s first point, but am also aware that &#8220;By eliminating animal agriculture&#8221; can benefit the environment. However  “serial killing, domestic violence, child abuse &#8211; is often accompanied by or starts with animal abuse.” &#8212;what does that mean? That the misogynist begins at the bottom of the food chain and works his way to the top? First Animals, then Women, then Men? Misogyny is a social mindset and it can’t be equated to animal rights. Animal rights are important, and one can choose to be a person who cares about animal rights who happens to be feminist as well. I’d go as far as to make parallels between the sex-slave industry and the mass slaughter of animals for meat production, but to equate the two and say that the female situation will improve if the animal one does&#8211; sounds a bit simplistic. That poster by itself is intensely sexist. The intention might be to bring women and animals to the level of a human being, but it only seems to succeed in bringing women to the level of animals. Doesn&#8217;t make sense to me at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracer Bullet</title>
		<link>http://sincitysiren.wordpress.com/2007/09/27/rights-are-rights-no-matter-the-label/#comment-691</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracer Bullet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 00:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;By eliminating animal agriculture, and the accompanying suffering of farm animals, we’ll be able to feed more people and lessen the gap between classes in third world nations.&quot;

Horsefeathers. Hunger is a problem of distribution, not production. There&#039;s plent of  food available, those most in need can&#039;t get to it for a variety of reasons.

As for your other points, well, I feel no sympathy for cows.  When wild, cows are vicious carnivores. A herd of wild cattle can skeletonize a man in less than seven minutes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;By eliminating animal agriculture, and the accompanying suffering of farm animals, we’ll be able to feed more people and lessen the gap between classes in third world nations.&#8221;</p>
<p>Horsefeathers. Hunger is a problem of distribution, not production. There&#8217;s plent of  food available, those most in need can&#8217;t get to it for a variety of reasons.</p>
<p>As for your other points, well, I feel no sympathy for cows.  When wild, cows are vicious carnivores. A herd of wild cattle can skeletonize a man in less than seven minutes.</p>
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